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they tried to get bill clinton to start the iraq war. they wanted george bush to start the war before 9/11 happened. then when 9/11 happened, they said we have to go now, don't we? the project for a new american century really existed and the people who ran it did not get run out of washington and forced into a line of work they would be better suited for like for example, coloring. they are briefing the republican vice presidential nominee on what to do about foreign policy. in 2012. the republican side never retired the g.w. bush policy team. no need to come up with a new idea or two. they don't seem to really care about foreign policy in terms of the mitt romney campaign. they just don't want to be asked about it. because the republican party is essentially forfeited on this issue, because on this issue there are not two plausible sides fighting it out in the election, there's the democrats and sort of a right wing peanut gallery that pops up. foreign policy and the wars are being handled in our political system differently than any o
they tried to get bill clinton to start the iraq war. they wanted george bush to start the war before 9/11 happened. then when 9/11 happened, they said we have to go now, don't we? the project for a new american century really existed and the people who ran it did not get run out of washington and forced into a line of work they would be better suited for like for example, coloring. they are briefing the republican vice presidential nominee on what to do about foreign policy. in 2012. the...
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went to iraq. and that relationship did not get off to a good footing. >> you know, the administration gave vice president biden the lead for iraq policy. when it came to the big decisions, president obama had to get engaged. i found it striking that during this whole negotiation over keeping troops in iraq, he talked by the secure videoconferences that they do. he talked to prime minister maliki twice. president obama, for him, iraq was a much more important priority rightly or wrongly and he was engaged on a weekly basis. i do think that had an effect on iraqi politics and there was an extraordinary request that president obama made to the president of iraq to resign his position to make way for another person. it's hard to make that kind of request when you don't have an ongoing relationship with your iraqi counterparts. >> the book is "endgame." thank you for being here. jim miklaszewski, thank you as well. when we come back, paul simon joins us on set. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by s
went to iraq. and that relationship did not get off to a good footing. >> you know, the administration gave vice president biden the lead for iraq policy. when it came to the big decisions, president obama had to get engaged. i found it striking that during this whole negotiation over keeping troops in iraq, he talked by the secure videoconferences that they do. he talked to prime minister maliki twice. president obama, for him, iraq was a much more important priority rightly or wrongly...
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. >>> yesterday one of the year's bloodiest in iraq left at least 92 people dead. a series of bombings and shootings hit more than a dozen cities and left hundreds injured. our english broadcast partner itn reports. >> reporter: as emergency vehicles rush to one incident -- [ gunfire ] there is another explosion. from north to south, iraq has had another deadly day. bombs timed to explode with maximum impact. the attacks began at dawn in the northern city of kirkuk, a car bomb exploded by a group of police recruits waiting to apply for jobs with a state-owned oil company. at least seven were killed there, but there were many more casualties in attacks around the city. north of baghdad, gunmen killed at least ten soldiers after storming an army outpost. and here in basra, a car bomb was detonated in a popular marketplace. "we suddenly felt the blast," said this eyewitness. "i saw five victims, two of them were dead and three others injured." the attacks have been blamed on the iraqi branch of al qaeda, intent on taking back areas it was forced from before british an
. >>> yesterday one of the year's bloodiest in iraq left at least 92 people dead. a series of bombings and shootings hit more than a dozen cities and left hundreds injured. our english broadcast partner itn reports. >> reporter: as emergency vehicles rush to one incident -- [ gunfire ] there is another explosion. from north to south, iraq has had another deadly day. bombs timed to explode with maximum impact. the attacks began at dawn in the northern city of kirkuk, a car bomb...
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their activities in iraq have been very negative for a number of years. they were the ones supporting many of these militia groups, the same militia groups they were supporting that prime minister maliki opposed and opposed at some political cost to himself within the shia community. so i think the iranians continue to be very aggressive on the ground in iraq and now they're aggressive in the overflight. now we've known for some years that iraq does not control its air space. it does not have, you know, interceptor aircraft that can go up and take care of its air space. so there is a definite problem there. and i'm sure it is something that's going to move very much to the top of the agenda in trying to deal with. >> chris hill, thanks so much. as always. and we'll be right back with more politics. the romney campaign, is it looking for a re-set button? or . i love new technology, so when i heard that american express and twitter were teaming up, i was pretty interested. turns out you just sync your american express card securely to your twitter account,
their activities in iraq have been very negative for a number of years. they were the ones supporting many of these militia groups, the same militia groups they were supporting that prime minister maliki opposed and opposed at some political cost to himself within the shia community. so i think the iranians continue to be very aggressive on the ground in iraq and now they're aggressive in the overflight. now we've known for some years that iraq does not control its air space. it does not have,...
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what do you see as the lessons of iraq? >> i think the lessons of iraq are very clear that you cannot have a failed strategy. thanks to this great general david pa tray yous, they are succeeding and winning in iraq. >> whether we should have gone into the war in the first place. six years ago i stood up and opposed this war. we hadn't finished the job in afghanistan. we hadn't caught bin laden. we hadn't put al qaeda to rest. and as a consequence, i thought that it was going to be a distraction. now, senator mccain and president bush had a very different judgment. >> so that was this date, 40 days out from the election in '08 and 40 days out from the election in '04. in '04 the campaign was consumed with the debate over at least one of our wars. 40 days out from the election in '08, in the midst of the financial meltdown the campaign was consumed with both of the wars. now it's 2012 and we're 40 days out from the election this year and we are not quite as consumed with that issue, but we are still in one of those wars. and
what do you see as the lessons of iraq? >> i think the lessons of iraq are very clear that you cannot have a failed strategy. thanks to this great general david pa tray yous, they are succeeding and winning in iraq. >> whether we should have gone into the war in the first place. six years ago i stood up and opposed this war. we hadn't finished the job in afghanistan. we hadn't caught bin laden. we hadn't put al qaeda to rest. and as a consequence, i thought that it was going to be a...
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he's just trying to gin stuff up so we don't pay attention to iraq. >> kurt, speaking of iraq, one of the things that i'm still trying to figure out is how exactly and why exactly we ended up going to war with iraq. can you take us behind the scenes in that decision-making process? >> the decision-making process was really ugly. there are a few things that come out in "500 days." one is that the defense intelligence agency did an assessment of our intelligence on iraq and concluded that it was terrible. that we really did not know very much. the cia iraq group was cut out of the loop and really everything was being run on a very high level within the pentagon and the vice president's office, dick cheney's office. so what you had were people who firmly believed that saddam had weapons of mass destruction and weren't -- and if someone came in and said they around there, they just thought they were wrong. so you ended up with this push, this pressure to go in even when the intelligence was coming back saying, there's nothing there. >> kurt, i have a basic question. you laid out a lot of
he's just trying to gin stuff up so we don't pay attention to iraq. >> kurt, speaking of iraq, one of the things that i'm still trying to figure out is how exactly and why exactly we ended up going to war with iraq. can you take us behind the scenes in that decision-making process? >> the decision-making process was really ugly. there are a few things that come out in "500 days." one is that the defense intelligence agency did an assessment of our intelligence on iraq and...
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war or voted for the iraq war. so it was a big factor in my getting involved and in i think a lot of young people getting involved. >> throughout the fall, obama worked small rooms across iowa and new hampshire, clearly connecting with the mostly white electorate. >> thank you! >> be courageous. >> thank you, i will. thank you. >> you read some of those early speeches and rallies. do you remember the feeling you had in the room hearing barack obama for the first time? >> it was really a physically tangible feeling in the room, of excitement, of inspiration, of hope and possibility for change. and i think that was the sense that we were really here in the presence of somebody who's a new kind of leader. >> are you fired up?! ready to go?! fired up! ready to go? fired up! ready to go? >> ready to go! >> so am i. >> on january 3rd, 2008, these fired up voters swept obama to victory in the iowa caucuses. >> they said this day would never come. >> he had beaten john edwards by eight points. senator clinton had come in t
war or voted for the iraq war. so it was a big factor in my getting involved and in i think a lot of young people getting involved. >> throughout the fall, obama worked small rooms across iowa and new hampshire, clearly connecting with the mostly white electorate. >> thank you! >> be courageous. >> thank you, i will. thank you. >> you read some of those early speeches and rallies. do you remember the feeling you had in the room hearing barack obama for the first...
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war or voted for the iraq war. so it was a big factor in my getting involved and in i think a lot of young people getting involved. >> throughout the fall, obama worked small rooms across iowa and new hampshire, clearly connecting with the mostly white electorate. >> thank you! >> be courageous. >> thank you, i will. thank you. >> you read some of those early speeches and rallies. do you remember the feeling you had in the room hearing barack obama for the first time? >> it was really a physically tangible feeling in the room, of excitement, of inspiration, of hope and possibility for change. and i think that was the sense that we were really here in the presence of somebody who's a new kind of leader. >> are you fired up?! ready to go?! fired up! ready to go? fired up! ready to go? >> ready to go! >> so am i. >> on january 3rd, 2008, these fired up voters swept obama to victory in the iowa caucuses. >> they said this day would never come. >> he had beaten john edwards by eight points. senator clinton had come in t
war or voted for the iraq war. so it was a big factor in my getting involved and in i think a lot of young people getting involved. >> throughout the fall, obama worked small rooms across iowa and new hampshire, clearly connecting with the mostly white electorate. >> thank you! >> be courageous. >> thank you, i will. thank you. >> you read some of those early speeches and rallies. do you remember the feeling you had in the room hearing barack obama for the first...
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he served with dings in iraq and worked in afghanistan. and there in benghazi as he tended to others, he laid down his life. loyal as always, protecting his friends. today glen is home. tyrone woods devoted 20 years of his life to the seals. the consummate quiet professional. the salty -- he served in iraq and afghanistan and there in benghazi he was far from dorothy and tyrone junior, hunter and little kai. and he laid down his life as he would have for them protecting his friends. and today, tyrone is home. sean smith it seems went to serve first in the air force and then with you at the state department. he knew the perils of this calling from his time in baghdad. there in benghazi far from home he surely thought of heather and samantha and nathan and he laid down his life in service to us all. today, sean is home. chris stephens was everything america could want in an ambassador as the whole country has come to see. how he first went to the region as a young man in the peace corp. how during the revolution he arrived in libya on that c
he served with dings in iraq and worked in afghanistan. and there in benghazi as he tended to others, he laid down his life. loyal as always, protecting his friends. today glen is home. tyrone woods devoted 20 years of his life to the seals. the consummate quiet professional. the salty -- he served in iraq and afghanistan and there in benghazi he was far from dorothy and tyrone junior, hunter and little kai. and he laid down his life as he would have for them protecting his friends. and today,...
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war or voted for the iraq war. so it was a big factor in my getting involved and in i think a lot of young people getting involved. >> throughout the fall, obama worked small rooms across iowa and new hampshire, clearly connecting with the mostly white electorate. >> thank you! >> be courageous. >> thank you, i will. thank you. >> you read some of those early speeches and rallies. do you remember the feeling you had in the room hearing barack obama for the first time? >> it was really a physically tangible feeling in the room, of excitement, of inspiration, of hope and possibility for change. and i think that was the sense that we were really here in the presence of somebody who's a new kind of leader. >> are you fired up?! ready to go?! fired up! ready to go? fired up! ready to go? >> ready to go! >> so am i. >> on january 3rd, 2008, these fired up voters swept obama to victory in the iowa caucuses. >> they said this day would never come. >> he had beaten john edwards by eight points. senator clinton had come in t
war or voted for the iraq war. so it was a big factor in my getting involved and in i think a lot of young people getting involved. >> throughout the fall, obama worked small rooms across iowa and new hampshire, clearly connecting with the mostly white electorate. >> thank you! >> be courageous. >> thank you, i will. thank you. >> you read some of those early speeches and rallies. do you remember the feeling you had in the room hearing barack obama for the first...
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>> the fact that obama was against the war in iraq, the fact that he was an outsider, not an insider, the fact he was a conciliator and not a divisive figure he was clearly the remedy to what people felt was wrong, more so than hillary at the time who was much more of an establishment candidate. >> to get to the head of the pack, obama focused on building a first-class ground campaign, especially in the outlying caucus states. >> you're cleaning and you've got my button on. you know when i said, yes, we can, i didn't mean dusting. >> he used social media better than the other campaigns to create a network of the young, excited, and savvy. >> i'm with students for barack obama. >> obama's appeal to the under 30 crowd was one of his biggest assets. >> obama's so amazing. i almost cried like when i heard his speech. >> the youngest and by far the coolest candidate in the race, he almost seemed to be one of them. >> i'm ready. >> actor call pen joined the campaign after hearing obama speak at a los angeles fund-raiser. >> to me what was most inspiring was the fact that he was a guy that w
>> the fact that obama was against the war in iraq, the fact that he was an outsider, not an insider, the fact he was a conciliator and not a divisive figure he was clearly the remedy to what people felt was wrong, more so than hillary at the time who was much more of an establishment candidate. >> to get to the head of the pack, obama focused on building a first-class ground campaign, especially in the outlying caucus states. >> you're cleaning and you've got my button on....
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army in iraq showed the little town of derna in libya sent more volunteers to die in iraq in 2006 and 2007 than any other place in the entire arab world. libya, per capita, as a country, sent more fighters to iraq than any other country, but it was specifically derna, that town, that sent the highest number of fighters. the most. full stop. and in 2008 the man who would become our ambassador, christopher stevens, he went to derna to assess the state of militancy and anti-americanism there. .and his cable back to washington actually used the bruce willis movie "diehard" as an analysis for understanding how intense the local attitudes were there about jihad. once the uprising against moammar gadhafi was under way, cnn reported this june that al qaeda central, the part that used to be headed by bin laden, al qaeda central dispatched a top operator from the tribal areas in pakistan to go to derna, to go to that part of libya to capitalize on that town's legendary militancy and also what, by then, was the raging fight against gadhafi's forces in libya, specifically. the assignment was to s
army in iraq showed the little town of derna in libya sent more volunteers to die in iraq in 2006 and 2007 than any other place in the entire arab world. libya, per capita, as a country, sent more fighters to iraq than any other country, but it was specifically derna, that town, that sent the highest number of fighters. the most. full stop. and in 2008 the man who would become our ambassador, christopher stevens, he went to derna to assess the state of militancy and anti-americanism there. .and...
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, they voted for the war in iraq. joe biden was the chair of the senate foreign relations committee and shut down debate about iraq when it was being debated in this country. there's revisionism, jingoism. i'm not thinking about this from a political perspective. i'm talking about life and death issues that cut to the heart of will we follow the constitution when it comes -- >> we should aggregate some of the issues. there's the ending the war in iraq. the status of forces agreement was negotiated by the bush administration that we adhered to. there was some evidence we were trying to get out of it but the end result was the president did end the war. we're going to keep quite a large force of essentially paid mercenaries behind, there's a huge embassy, but combat troops have been brought home. that is in one column. there's extension, the surge in afghanistan. we have 87,000 troops there, and the deadline for that. there's the decision to order the strike against osama bin laden and then there is the massive drone po
, they voted for the war in iraq. joe biden was the chair of the senate foreign relations committee and shut down debate about iraq when it was being debated in this country. there's revisionism, jingoism. i'm not thinking about this from a political perspective. i'm talking about life and death issues that cut to the heart of will we follow the constitution when it comes -- >> we should aggregate some of the issues. there's the ending the war in iraq. the status of forces agreement was...
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. >> bruce bastian was an army med nick iraq. a young man dedicated to saving lives in combat, but when we met him at the limon correctional facility in colorado, he was serving time for the mayhem he and a friend caused on the streets of colorado springs. >> when i approached bruce, he was outside of his cell, and i said, bruce, you know, i'm with the camera crew, what do you want? i know why you're here, and we'd love to get your story. he said, well, why wouldn't you want my story, look at me. i'm like a movie actor. >> bastian accepted a plea bargain on two murder charges that resulted in a 60-year sentence for accessory and conspiracy to commit murder and aggravated robbery. the crimes occurred over a four-month period and were committed by bruce who was home on leave and a discharged army buddy. their two murder victims were fellow soldiers, one of whom served in their unit. >> it just kind of came out of nowhere one night really. i mean, we were sitting there, we were drinking at my house.
. >> bruce bastian was an army med nick iraq. a young man dedicated to saving lives in combat, but when we met him at the limon correctional facility in colorado, he was serving time for the mayhem he and a friend caused on the streets of colorado springs. >> when i approached bruce, he was outside of his cell, and i said, bruce, you know, i'm with the camera crew, what do you want? i know why you're here, and we'd love to get your story. he said, well, why wouldn't you want my...
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he served in iraq. today he placed his father's name into nomination for vice president. >> tonight, mr. chairman, it's my great honor to place into nomination for the office of vice president of the united states my father, my hero, joe biden. i move to suspend the rolls and nominate in acclamation joe biden as the vice presidential candidate. >> i know joe must be emotional right now when your son calls you a hero, you got to feel it in the heart. we have a motion to suspend the rolls and nominate joe biden as the party's vice presidential candidate. is there a second? all in favor of the motion say aye. all opposed. the ayes have it. the motion is adopted pursuant to the convention rules joe biden has been invited to make an acceptance speech. ♪ welcome aboard! [ chuckles ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ male announcer ] now you'll know when to stop. [ honk! ] the all-new nissan altima with easy fill tire alert. [ honk! ] it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation tha
he served in iraq. today he placed his father's name into nomination for vice president. >> tonight, mr. chairman, it's my great honor to place into nomination for the office of vice president of the united states my father, my hero, joe biden. i move to suspend the rolls and nominate in acclamation joe biden as the vice presidential candidate. >> i know joe must be emotional right now when your son calls you a hero, you got to feel it in the heart. we have a motion to suspend the...
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he also failed to mention iraq and afghanistan. more than 55,000 americans have been killed or injured in those wars but mr. romney didn't think the wars were worth mentioning, in his own speech at his own convention. here's how he tried to explain the oversight. >> i find it interesting that people are curious about mentioning words in a speech as opposed to policy. i have some differences on policy with the president. i happen to think those are more important than what word i mention in each speech. >> do you regret opening up this line of attack, now a recurring attack, by leaving out that issue in the speech? >> i only regret you repeating it day in and day out. when you give a speech you don't go through a laundry list. you talk about the things you think are important. >> you talk about the things that are important. doesn't that include wars in iraq and afghanistan? today one of romney's foreign policy advisers criticized the ambassador campaign for pointing this out saying, quote, it doesn't surprise me that they're raisin
he also failed to mention iraq and afghanistan. more than 55,000 americans have been killed or injured in those wars but mr. romney didn't think the wars were worth mentioning, in his own speech at his own convention. here's how he tried to explain the oversight. >> i find it interesting that people are curious about mentioning words in a speech as opposed to policy. i have some differences on policy with the president. i happen to think those are more important than what word i mention...
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so he became the president throughout -- even talking about iraq, taking our troops out of iraq. he was given a glide path in iraq, but he pulled the troops out. brags about the fact that troops are out. gives a definite date for getting out in afghanistan. what he is doing is telling their allies they can't trust us and also telling others that the u.s. is not a reliable ally. and the fact that you would have the prime minister of israel on this show explaining his relationship with the president of the united states -- we have never had a such a disconnect between the israeli prime minister and the president. >> the prime minister of israel did not describe that as a snub. >> i'm saying it. >> it's ridiculous. the president has been consistent. he's been steady. and he set real progress and policy wins in the middle east. this is a seriously deeply rooted phenomenon, the arab spring, that will be unfolding for a long time. the last thing we need is to start making quick emotionally charged decisions. we need consistent steady leadership like the president has shown. >> there is
so he became the president throughout -- even talking about iraq, taking our troops out of iraq. he was given a glide path in iraq, but he pulled the troops out. brags about the fact that troops are out. gives a definite date for getting out in afghanistan. what he is doing is telling their allies they can't trust us and also telling others that the u.s. is not a reliable ally. and the fact that you would have the prime minister of israel on this show explaining his relationship with the...
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there's ending the war in iraq, right? the status forces agreement negotia negotiated, and the president did end the war at the end of the day. we keep up a force of paid mercenaries behind, but troops have been brought them. i think that is in one column. there is extension, the surge in afghanistan, right? 87,000 troops there and the deadline for that. there is the decision to order the strike against osama bin laden, and then there is the massive drone policy and end all of engagements in terms of bombing and drones. we're going to continue this conversation on our website msnbc.com. and our usual time slot at 8:00 eastern. for this special afternoon edition of up, we have to cut it short here. i want to thank peter, telsey, jeremy, and michelle. thank you for getting up. thank you for joining us for this special afternoon edition of up. we'll have sam deler here at our regular time next sunday, and i will be with bill maher tonight. coming up next is melissa harris-perry. mhp follows the methods and motives coming up n
there's ending the war in iraq, right? the status forces agreement negotia negotiated, and the president did end the war at the end of the day. we keep up a force of paid mercenaries behind, but troops have been brought them. i think that is in one column. there is extension, the surge in afghanistan, right? 87,000 troops there and the deadline for that. there is the decision to order the strike against osama bin laden, and then there is the massive drone policy and end all of engagements in...
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the ballpark administration pressured iraq not to allow the flights earlier this year but they did resume in the july, allowing iranians to avoid border crossings on the ground controlled by syrian rebels. iraq's tolerance of iran's using of its airspace starkly points out the limits of the obama administration's influence there. vice president biden made an august phone call to the iraqi prime minister to discuss the syrian crisis and a source told the times mr. biden registered concern over those iranian flights. >> here's your first look at other news around america today. surveillance shows this car plowing through a restaurant. no one was inside at the time. only two in the car suffered minor injuries. the bad news, it happened just a half an hour before the restaurant was going to open for its first days of business. yeah, bad timing. >> in massachusetts more car trouble. an elderly driver was backing into his garage when he hit the gas instead of the brake. that sent his car right into the next door neighbor's pool after it crashed through a fence. he is said to be okay. and in ohi
the ballpark administration pressured iraq not to allow the flights earlier this year but they did resume in the july, allowing iranians to avoid border crossings on the ground controlled by syrian rebels. iraq's tolerance of iran's using of its airspace starkly points out the limits of the obama administration's influence there. vice president biden made an august phone call to the iraqi prime minister to discuss the syrian crisis and a source told the times mr. biden registered concern over...
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even when this intelligence came in, he said, no, we ought to be attacking iraq. what did you make looking at it? cheney was the intelligence guy in the white house, between bush and the cia guys. he was cutting it off and refining it and using it his way. what did you think of cheney's role in all of this? >> cheney was obviously instrumental, chris. and the administration was driven, i think, from the time it came into office by a very ideological agenda around getti getting saddam hussein and f finishing the work with the neocons and that work, considered the unfinished work from 1991, to get saddam hussein and find a pretense to do it. they were ideologically blinded to what the reality was in these warnings. at best, in curious, about pursuing the hints that were dropped. >> let's take a look at condoleezza rice, who i actually like personally. here she is saying something i'm afraid is always going to be on her record book. here she is testifying before the 9/11 commission. she was quizzed about how much information she discussed with president bush about th
even when this intelligence came in, he said, no, we ought to be attacking iraq. what did you make looking at it? cheney was the intelligence guy in the white house, between bush and the cia guys. he was cutting it off and refining it and using it his way. what did you think of cheney's role in all of this? >> cheney was obviously instrumental, chris. and the administration was driven, i think, from the time it came into office by a very ideological agenda around getti getting saddam...
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>> well, i would say that with the iraq war -- i mean, you look at the iraq war, which was -- i was proud to serve, but it was an unnecessary war. we lost over 4,000 troops. we spent over $3 trillion in the iraq war. and afghanistan, we took our eye off the ball for so long. it wasn't until barack obama that became commander in chief where you triple the amount of forces, we smoked out bin laden, we finally brought him to justice, and now we're bringing our troops home. you open up your program, before this segment talking about the transition today in kabul, which is very important. the reason why, craig, that mitt romney doesn't want to talk about our veterans is buz he's been no friend. his record, he has not been a friend to veterans. you probably don't know this, but he cut veterans programs when he was governor of massachusetts 11%. he wants to get rid of the veterans' preference for civil service jobs, when barack obama talked about veterans coming home from iraq and afghanistan, shouldn't fight for a job. well, mitt romney thinks they should. he thinks they shouldn't have a simple
>> well, i would say that with the iraq war -- i mean, you look at the iraq war, which was -- i was proud to serve, but it was an unnecessary war. we lost over 4,000 troops. we spent over $3 trillion in the iraq war. and afghanistan, we took our eye off the ball for so long. it wasn't until barack obama that became commander in chief where you triple the amount of forces, we smoked out bin laden, we finally brought him to justice, and now we're bringing our troops home. you open up your...
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it's also the ending of the war in iraq, and in effect how the war in afghanistan is no longer front page news the way it should be and the way it was in the past. certainly the main reason why terrorism has receded as a priority is basically because of the success the administration had against al qaeda. we see a threat far different than on 9/11, it's aa far different and weaker threat. most americans while they deal with some of the annoyance of tsa and other security measures put in place since 9/11, i don't think they feel the press of the threat the way they did a number of years ago. >> roger, i imagine there's not one thing you can name, but obviously people wonder. it is the improvement that is we've seen with tsa, some of the other counterterrorism measures in place and even the viewpoint of the cia, the fbi and counterterrorism agencies now working together? i guess the core of my question is, can you say why we have been so fortunate, so blessed, whatever term you choose to describe it for the attack like on 9/11? >> tamron, it's all of the above. the point everyone needs
it's also the ending of the war in iraq, and in effect how the war in afghanistan is no longer front page news the way it should be and the way it was in the past. certainly the main reason why terrorism has receded as a priority is basically because of the success the administration had against al qaeda. we see a threat far different than on 9/11, it's aa far different and weaker threat. most americans while they deal with some of the annoyance of tsa and other security measures put in place...
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so they sent me to iraq. >> in iraq, fish was assigned to an air force base hospital where wounded soldiers arrived daily. >> the only thing i remember specifically is the first guy i treated, he's dead now. and he was a marine. he came in and his arm was damaged. it was totally wrapped up. they're sticking needles and stuff in him and doing procedures on him and i'm helping the nurses as much as i can there. and then the nurse says, hey, if you want to do something for him right now, hold his hand because this is really going to hurt him. the last thing i remember doing is holding his hand for him and he -- and in the throes of his pain, gripped my hand. he was alive enough to feel the extreme amount of pain. but he wasn't able to scream or voice it, and then he got evacuated and died on the way to the hospital in germany. >> after his tour ended, fish returned to the united states. during a random military drug test, he came up positive for marijuana and was released with an "other than honorable" discharge. soon after, fish says he suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder. >> they pu
so they sent me to iraq. >> in iraq, fish was assigned to an air force base hospital where wounded soldiers arrived daily. >> the only thing i remember specifically is the first guy i treated, he's dead now. and he was a marine. he came in and his arm was damaged. it was totally wrapped up. they're sticking needles and stuff in him and doing procedures on him and i'm helping the nurses as much as i can there. and then the nurse says, hey, if you want to do something for him right...
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he will take credit foernding the wars in iraq and afghanistan. that's a bit disingenuous. george w. bush said that he was going to draw down troops in iraq and also in afghanistan to a certain degree. so, you know, again, a lot of concern open to president obama's porn policy critique, if you will, and main reason why is because when you take a look at it, it really is bush in so many different ways when it comes to afghanistan and iraq, as i mentioned, guantanamo bay. you go on down the list. president obama pretty much has followed president bush's road map, if you will, from a foreign policy standpoint except for israel. >> do you get a sense, ann, about the president's advisers at all trying to lower expectations for his speech this week? >> yeah. look, only said about a week ago, little less than a week ago, he was still writing the speech and -- four years ago they talk ad lot about how he had done draft after draft as the weeks led up to it. i think that -- they are going to try and make subtlety be key this time and let the speech speak for itself. which it certain
he will take credit foernding the wars in iraq and afghanistan. that's a bit disingenuous. george w. bush said that he was going to draw down troops in iraq and also in afghanistan to a certain degree. so, you know, again, a lot of concern open to president obama's porn policy critique, if you will, and main reason why is because when you take a look at it, it really is bush in so many different ways when it comes to afghanistan and iraq, as i mentioned, guantanamo bay. you go on down the list....
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-led invasion of iraq, march 2003. it was also the month when it was ordered that the flag-draped coffins of american service members killed abroad could not be photographed when those coffins got back to the united states. that change in policy under george w. bush was a source of anger and controversy. it is why coffins were sometimes used in anti-iraq war protests to visually represent those real caskets of americans killed in the war that the bush administration would not allow the country to see. the bush administration banned the media from showing those dignified transfer ceremonies as the invasion of iraq started in 2003. and they kept the policy in place throughout george w. bush's time in office. as the country waged two of the longest wars in our history. it was not until the new president replaced george w. bush that the ban was rescinded. on thursday, february 26th, 2009, just five weeks after president barack obama was inaugurated, the defense department lifted the ban and one week after the ban was lifte
-led invasion of iraq, march 2003. it was also the month when it was ordered that the flag-draped coffins of american service members killed abroad could not be photographed when those coffins got back to the united states. that change in policy under george w. bush was a source of anger and controversy. it is why coffins were sometimes used in anti-iraq war protests to visually represent those real caskets of americans killed in the war that the bush administration would not allow the country...
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to go over to an unnecessary war in iraq. we spent $3 trillion in iraq, lost over 4,000 men and women, tens of thousands have ptsd or traumatic brain injury, and then these knuckle heads who send us into war don't want to take care of these veterans when they come home? i mean, that's the cost of war. we need to make sure we give them the opportunity. we need to expand things like the g.i. bill and to do it just so president obama or democrats and republicans can't say we have an accomplishment every once in a while is beyond me. i can't get over the fact that these men in the senate turned their back on veterans who are in desperate need right now. it's just unamerican. >> former u.s. congressman army combat veteran patrick murphy. >> you know it is a powerful interview when i have knuckle heads is written on my script. >>> despite john mccain's objections, the sky did not fall. a reason to be cheerful coming up. >>> tonight is the eve of the one-year anniversary of don't ask, don't tell being repealed. midnight on september
to go over to an unnecessary war in iraq. we spent $3 trillion in iraq, lost over 4,000 men and women, tens of thousands have ptsd or traumatic brain injury, and then these knuckle heads who send us into war don't want to take care of these veterans when they come home? i mean, that's the cost of war. we need to make sure we give them the opportunity. we need to expand things like the g.i. bill and to do it just so president obama or democrats and republicans can't say we have an accomplishment...
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we are entering iraq to free a people, show respect for them. iraq is steeped in history. it is the site of the garden of eden, of the great flood, and the birthplace of abraham. tread lightly there. you will see things that no man could pay to see, and you will have to go a long way to find a more decent, generous, and upright people than the iraqis. those were the words of an officer and a gentleman, mindful of the need, even
we are entering iraq to free a people, show respect for them. iraq is steeped in history. it is the site of the garden of eden, of the great flood, and the birthplace of abraham. tread lightly there. you will see things that no man could pay to see, and you will have to go a long way to find a more decent, generous, and upright people than the iraqis. those were the words of an officer and a gentleman, mindful of the need, even
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first lady honored the fallen, visiting the special section reserved for service members killed in iraq and afghanistan. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington on a day that gives every american pause reflecting on the great loss and our country's resolve. today president obama told service members that the deadly attacks will strengthen and connect us for decades to come. >> when the history books are written, the true legacy of 9/11 will not be one of fear or hate, or division, it will be a safer world, a stronger nation, and a people more united than ever before. >> let's turn to our team here at home and oversees. nbc's ron allen in new york. nbc chief pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski and atia abawi in kabul. first to you at ground zero, talk about the feelings, the memorial, the ceremonies today. >> well, andrea, each commemoration, each anniversary is unique and different, powerful and special, and this one certainly was as well. it was smaller, more intimate, more private and less public if you will, although certainly open to the public. about a thousand peop
first lady honored the fallen, visiting the special section reserved for service members killed in iraq and afghanistan. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington on a day that gives every american pause reflecting on the great loss and our country's resolve. today president obama told service members that the deadly attacks will strengthen and connect us for decades to come. >> when the history books are written, the true legacy of 9/11 will not be one of fear or hate, or...
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two-thirds of republicans say there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq when our troops got there in 2003. do they have amnesia? have they been buried in their basements the last nine years? what explains this many people being so out to lunch they don't even remember how "w," remember him, he was president, blew his whole reason for sending our troops in there in the first place. how can people be so helpless. anyway, this may explain why romney is in trouble because people out there think his party is out of it. joining me is howard fineman and joe klein of the times. let's take a look at the two polls. the two key states ohio and florida. according to "the washington post," president obama has a four-point lead over mitt romney in florida. four points down there in a very tough state. 51%,/47% for obama. in ohio, the president's lead is a more comfortable eight points. 52/44. that's dramatic. we have joining us -- let's take a look at that for a minute. howard fineman, thank you for joining us, and joe klein of "time" magazine. thank you. it strikes me the numbers i put out ton
two-thirds of republicans say there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq when our troops got there in 2003. do they have amnesia? have they been buried in their basements the last nine years? what explains this many people being so out to lunch they don't even remember how "w," remember him, he was president, blew his whole reason for sending our troops in there in the first place. how can people be so helpless. anyway, this may explain why romney is in trouble because people out...
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-led invasion of iraq, march 2003. it was also the month when it was ordered that the flag-draped couffins of american service members killed abroad could not be photographed when those coffins got back to the united states. that change in policy under george w. bush was a source of anger and controversy. it is why coffins were sometimes used in anti-iraq war protests to visually represent those real caskets of americans killed in the war that the bush administration would not allow the country...
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probably fought on iraq. on september 15th when lehman brothers collapsed it turned on the dime to an economy. and yesterday and even the hours before that, we've been talking about the economy. and lo and behold foreign policy and national security pops up, and mitt romney had a rough day yesterday, even getting -- out of yemen. out of libya that is banking a lot of scrutiny between now and election day if that stuff continues. >> what do you believe -- you listed a couple of questions for the president to answer. you say, do we have intelligence gap in libya? why weren't extra security precautions being taken? you move on to talk about where does the u.s. now stand with the muslim world? we heard the president in that interview with jose diaz vallard, our colleague, saying egypt is not an ally our enemy. richard engel had to set down because egypt had always been an ally under mubarak. >> so much of the political focus yesterday was how mitt romney handled and how the campaign responded and tried to attack
probably fought on iraq. on september 15th when lehman brothers collapsed it turned on the dime to an economy. and yesterday and even the hours before that, we've been talking about the economy. and lo and behold foreign policy and national security pops up, and mitt romney had a rough day yesterday, even getting -- out of yemen. out of libya that is banking a lot of scrutiny between now and election day if that stuff continues. >> what do you believe -- you listed a couple of questions...
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we ought to be attacking iraq. so what did you make of that looking at it. of course, he was always the intelligence guy in the white house. he was between bush and the cia guys guys. he was using it his way. what did you think of cheney's role? >> cheney was instrumental and the administration was driven, i think, from the time it came into office by an ideal logical agenda that was based around getting get ing saddam hussein and that movement. considered the unfinished work from 1991 to go in and get saddam hussein. so they were ideologically blinded to what the reality was here in these warnings. and at best in curious about pursuing the hints that were dropped. >> let's take a look at condoleeza rice, who i like personally. but she's saying something i'm afraid that's going to be on her record book. she's testifying before the 9/11 commission. she was quizzed about how much information she discussed with president bush about the likelihood of an attack coming. this is before 9/11. let's watch. >> i really don't remember commissioner whether i discussed t
we ought to be attacking iraq. so what did you make of that looking at it. of course, he was always the intelligence guy in the white house. he was between bush and the cia guys guys. he was using it his way. what did you think of cheney's role? >> cheney was instrumental and the administration was driven, i think, from the time it came into office by an ideal logical agenda that was based around getting get ing saddam hussein and that movement. considered the unfinished work from 1991 to...
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brought a zig anyfied toned the ill-conceived war in iraq. and signed into law historic health care reform. a dream already decades overdue when i called for it at this convention 36 years ago. he has done it all in the face of bitter, unyielding and, in fact, unprecedented partisan opposition. overseas president obama restored the reputation of the united states within the community. dialling a and collaboration are once again possible with the return of spirit and trust and good will to our foreign policy. of course, there remains much to do. communities across america and countries around the world, life is too hard for too many people. we see their struggle and also our hearts go out to them. in the coming years our hands must continue to reach out to them. after all that remains to be done and at home and abroad, the evidence is overwhelming. president obama is a leader for america and we faison slaught of some of the most complicated and international challenges to confront any u.s. president in modern times. it is up to all of us to ma
brought a zig anyfied toned the ill-conceived war in iraq. and signed into law historic health care reform. a dream already decades overdue when i called for it at this convention 36 years ago. he has done it all in the face of bitter, unyielding and, in fact, unprecedented partisan opposition. overseas president obama restored the reputation of the united states within the community. dialling a and collaboration are once again possible with the return of spirit and trust and good will to our...
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troops are indeed out of iraq. >> i am announcing that the american combat mission in iraq has ended. operation "iraqi freedom" is over and the iraqi people now have lead responsibility for the security of their country. >> in afghanistan, he stepped up troop levels, unleashed drone strikes in pakistan and yemen and rounded up top terrorists including the one whose attack started a decade of war. >> tonight i can report to the american people and to the world that the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden, the leader of al qaeda, and a terrorist who's responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women and children. >> yet with all of these successes, republicans are still trotting out the same line of criticism that the president has not been a strong leader on the international stage. >> unfortunately, for four years, for four years, we've drifted away from our proudest traditions of global leadership. traditions that are truly bipartisan. we've let the challenges we face both at home and abroad become much harder to solve. >> joining us now
troops are indeed out of iraq. >> i am announcing that the american combat mission in iraq has ended. operation "iraqi freedom" is over and the iraqi people now have lead responsibility for the security of their country. >> in afghanistan, he stepped up troop levels, unleashed drone strikes in pakistan and yemen and rounded up top terrorists including the one whose attack started a decade of war. >> tonight i can report to the american people and to the world that...
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he said ending the war in iraq was tragic. i think it was the right thing to do. i said we'd end that war, we did. i said we'd go after al qaeda. we did. i said we'd take out bin laden. we did. >> you know, issues of war and foreign policy are not all that partisan all the time. republican jon huntsman's campaign didn't go anywhere this year and neither did ron paul's this year, but both of these candidates were respected for and got support for running on the issue of afghanistan, for saying what a lot of republicans think, and a lot of independents think, and a lot of democrats think. which is that we ought to end the afghanistan war and leave now, not in 2014. you don't win a medal for bravery for espouses a political position like that right now. it's a pretty popular position. but mitt romney is no john hundre huntsman. he's no ron paul. he's afraid to say the word "afghanistan" even when it counts, let alone to visit afghanistan. let alone to make any arguments whatsoever that do not flow from the george w. bush foreign policy brain trust that he has held ov
he said ending the war in iraq was tragic. i think it was the right thing to do. i said we'd end that war, we did. i said we'd go after al qaeda. we did. i said we'd take out bin laden. we did. >> you know, issues of war and foreign policy are not all that partisan all the time. republican jon huntsman's campaign didn't go anywhere this year and neither did ron paul's this year, but both of these candidates were respected for and got support for running on the issue of afghanistan, for...
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we're joined by delaware attorney general beau biden, iraq war veteran, and the son of vice president joe biden. may i begin by thanking you for your military service and your continuing public service as attorney general, mr. biden. >> thank you, martin. thanks for alog he me to come on. >> thank you. mitt romney said he would not be getting political given today's anniversary, yet a couple lines into his speech he delivers overtly political comments about leadership, about his opponent, about the direction of returning military. is this man not in control of his own faculties? >> well, i don't know. i'll let the viewers be the judge of that. i know his speech wasn't consistent with what his staff said he was going to talk about, and that is not taking on the president and making this a political day. i'm going to follow the president's lead, the vice president's lead and honor those we lost on 9/11 11 years ago. everyone watching now, you i am sure, people on your staff, i know people, sons, a mother and a father who lost a son, a daughter who lost a father here in delaware. you kno
we're joined by delaware attorney general beau biden, iraq war veteran, and the son of vice president joe biden. may i begin by thanking you for your military service and your continuing public service as attorney general, mr. biden. >> thank you, martin. thanks for alog he me to come on. >> thank you. mitt romney said he would not be getting political given today's anniversary, yet a couple lines into his speech he delivers overtly political comments about leadership, about his...